Head to head

Semovente M41 vs SU-85

Two vehicles side by side — expected values from the XVM reference, measured values from the stored profiles.

First tank
Semovente M41
Semovente M41
Tier V Tank Destroyer Italy
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Second tank
SU-85
SU-85
Tier V Tank Destroyer Soviet Union

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Overall picture

Semovente M41 leads in 4 of 7 comparable metrics.

Only mutually independent values are counted: win rate, average WN8 and the five expected values. Battle count measures popularity rather than strength, and the MoE thresholds are arithmetically the same figure as average damage — both stay out.

Strength profile

Five axes side by side

Each axis is scaled to the range of the tiers involved: the outer edge is the best value of the tier, the centre the weakest. The shape therefore shows where a vehicle stands among its peers — not merely which of the two numbers is larger.

Damage Kills Spotting Defence Win rate
Semovente M41 SU-85

Measured stats

Measured, not estimated

55.39 %

Win rate

6.5 % difference

51.78 %
1,970

Avg. WN8

35.4 % difference

1,272
2,553

Battles

92.4 % difference

33,497

Expected values per battle

XVM reference

620

Avg. damage

7.0 % difference

577
1.01

Avg. kills

10.1 % difference

1.13
0.78

Avg. spotted

30.9 % difference

0.54
1.08

Avg. defence

16.4 % difference

1.29
53.55 %

Exp. win rate

1.5 % difference

54.34 %

Marks of Excellence

Lower is better

The bar shows the combined damage required for each mark of excellence. All six bars share one scale — the shorter one marks the vehicle on which the mark is easier to earn.

1 Mark
Semovente M41 1,023
SU-85 951
2 Marks
Semovente M41 1,488
SU-85 1,384
3 Marks
Semovente M41 1,922
SU-85 1,787

Approximation based on WN8 expected values — not an official Wargaming figure.

Standing within the tier

Percentile among all vehicles of the same tier

Both vehicles are measured against their own tier, not against each other. That keeps a cross-tier comparison readable: the percentage states which share of the vehicle’s own tier scores worse.

Semovente M41 Tier V
Win rate Rank 30 of 87

Better than 66 % of the tier

Avg. WN8 Rank 23 of 81

Better than 73 % of the tier

SU-85 Tier V
Win rate Rank 75 of 87

Better than 14 % of the tier

Avg. WN8 Rank 68 of 81

Better than 16 % of the tier

Best players in this duel

The three best stored profiles per vehicle

From the stored profiles, minimum 50 battles on this vehicle. Updated daily.

Semovente M41
SU-85

The advantage is highlighted in the colour of its side — for the MoE thresholds that is the lower value. Expected values are reference figures for the WN8 calculation, not vehicle statistics: they state what an average player achieves in this tank.

Semovente M41 data sheet SU-85 data sheet