Head to head

SU-85 vs Archer

Two vehicles side by side — expected values from the XVM reference, measured values from the stored profiles.

First tank
SU-85
SU-85
Tier V Tank Destroyer Soviet Union
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Second tank
Archer
Archer
Tier V Tank Destroyer Great Britain

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Overall picture

Archer leads in 4 of 7 comparable metrics.

Only mutually independent values are counted: win rate, average WN8 and the five expected values. Battle count measures popularity rather than strength, and the MoE thresholds are arithmetically the same figure as average damage — both stay out.

Strength profile

Five axes side by side

Each axis is scaled to the range of the tiers involved: the outer edge is the best value of the tier, the centre the weakest. The shape therefore shows where a vehicle stands among its peers — not merely which of the two numbers is larger.

Damage Kills Spotting Defence Win rate
SU-85 Archer

Measured stats

Measured, not estimated

51.78 %

Win rate

5.4 % difference

54.74 %
1,272

Avg. WN8

30.1 % difference

1,819
33,497

Battles

90.7 % difference

3,122

Expected values per battle

XVM reference

577

Avg. damage

1.1 % difference

583
1.13

Avg. kills

5.9 % difference

1.06
0.54

Avg. spotted

2.8 % difference

0.52
1.29

Avg. defence

13.7 % difference

1.50
54.34 %

Exp. win rate

0.3 % difference

54.16 %

Marks of Excellence

Lower is better

The bar shows the combined damage required for each mark of excellence. All six bars share one scale — the shorter one marks the vehicle on which the mark is easier to earn.

1 Mark
SU-85 951
Archer 962
2 Marks
SU-85 1,384
Archer 1,399
3 Marks
SU-85 1,787
Archer 1,808

Approximation based on WN8 expected values — not an official Wargaming figure.

Standing within the tier

Percentile among all vehicles of the same tier

Both vehicles are measured against their own tier, not against each other. That keeps a cross-tier comparison readable: the percentage states which share of the vehicle’s own tier scores worse.

SU-85 Tier V
Win rate Rank 75 of 87

Better than 14 % of the tier

Avg. WN8 Rank 68 of 81

Better than 16 % of the tier

Archer Tier V
Win rate Rank 39 of 87

Better than 56 % of the tier

Avg. WN8 Rank 36 of 81

Better than 56 % of the tier

Best players in this duel

The three best stored profiles per vehicle

From the stored profiles, minimum 50 battles on this vehicle. Updated daily.

SU-85
Archer

The advantage is highlighted in the colour of its side — for the MoE thresholds that is the lower value. Expected values are reference figures for the WN8 calculation, not vehicle statistics: they state what an average player achieves in this tank.

SU-85 data sheet Archer data sheet