Head to head

Marder 38T vs SU-85B

Two vehicles side by side — expected values from the XVM reference, measured values from the stored profiles.

First tank
Marder 38T
Marder 38T
Tier IV Tank Destroyer Germany
vs
Second tank
SU-85B
SU-85B
Tier IV Tank Destroyer Soviet Union

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Overall picture

SU-85B leads in 4 of 7 comparable metrics.

Only mutually independent values are counted: win rate, average WN8 and the five expected values. Battle count measures popularity rather than strength, and the MoE thresholds are arithmetically the same figure as average damage — both stay out.

Strength profile

Five axes side by side

Each axis is scaled to the range of the tiers involved: the outer edge is the best value of the tier, the centre the weakest. The shape therefore shows where a vehicle stands among its peers — not merely which of the two numbers is larger.

Damage Kills Spotting Defence Win rate
Marder 38T SU-85B

Measured stats

Measured, not estimated

53.45 %

Win rate

0.8 % difference

53.89 %
1,283

Avg. WN8

0.2 % difference

1,280
12,732

Battles

21.4 % difference

16,195

Expected values per battle

XVM reference

493

Avg. damage

0.9 % difference

498
1.29

Avg. kills

2.1 % difference

1.31
0.78

Avg. spotted

3.7 % difference

0.81
1.59

Avg. defence

9.4 % difference

1.44
56.02 %

Exp. win rate

0.2 % difference

55.91 %

Marks of Excellence

Lower is better

The bar shows the combined damage required for each mark of excellence. All six bars share one scale — the shorter one marks the vehicle on which the mark is easier to earn.

1 Mark
Marder 38T 814
SU-85B 821
2 Marks
Marder 38T 1,184
SU-85B 1,194
3 Marks
Marder 38T 1,529
SU-85B 1,543

Approximation based on WN8 expected values — not an official Wargaming figure.

Standing within the tier

Percentile among all vehicles of the same tier

Both vehicles are measured against their own tier, not against each other. That keeps a cross-tier comparison readable: the percentage states which share of the vehicle’s own tier scores worse.

Marder 38T Tier IV
Win rate Rank 25 of 57

Better than 57 % of the tier

Avg. WN8 Rank 24 of 55

Better than 57 % of the tier

SU-85B Tier IV
Win rate Rank 22 of 57

Better than 63 % of the tier

Avg. WN8 Rank 25 of 55

Better than 56 % of the tier

Best players in this duel

The three best stored profiles per vehicle

From the stored profiles, minimum 50 battles on this vehicle. Updated daily.

Marder 38T
SU-85B

The advantage is highlighted in the colour of its side — for the MoE thresholds that is the lower value. Expected values are reference figures for the WN8 calculation, not vehicle statistics: they state what an average player achieves in this tank.

Marder 38T data sheet SU-85B data sheet