Head to head

SU-85B vs Marder 38T

Two vehicles side by side — expected values from the XVM reference, measured values from the stored profiles.

First tank
SU-85B
SU-85B
Tier IV Tank Destroyer Soviet Union
vs
Second tank
Marder 38T
Marder 38T
Tier IV Tank Destroyer Germany

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Overall picture

SU-85B leads in 4 of 7 comparable metrics.

Only mutually independent values are counted: win rate, average WN8 and the five expected values. Battle count measures popularity rather than strength, and the MoE thresholds are arithmetically the same figure as average damage — both stay out.

Strength profile

Five axes side by side

Each axis is scaled to the range of the tiers involved: the outer edge is the best value of the tier, the centre the weakest. The shape therefore shows where a vehicle stands among its peers — not merely which of the two numbers is larger.

Damage Kills Spotting Defence Win rate
SU-85B Marder 38T

Measured stats

Measured, not estimated

53.89 %

Win rate

0.8 % difference

53.45 %
1,280

Avg. WN8

0.2 % difference

1,283
16,195

Battles

21.4 % difference

12,732

Expected values per battle

XVM reference

498

Avg. damage

0.9 % difference

493
1.31

Avg. kills

2.1 % difference

1.29
0.81

Avg. spotted

3.7 % difference

0.78
1.44

Avg. defence

9.4 % difference

1.59
55.91 %

Exp. win rate

0.2 % difference

56.02 %

Marks of Excellence

Lower is better

The bar shows the combined damage required for each mark of excellence. All six bars share one scale — the shorter one marks the vehicle on which the mark is easier to earn.

1 Mark
SU-85B 821
Marder 38T 814
2 Marks
SU-85B 1,194
Marder 38T 1,184
3 Marks
SU-85B 1,543
Marder 38T 1,529

Approximation based on WN8 expected values — not an official Wargaming figure.

Standing within the tier

Percentile among all vehicles of the same tier

Both vehicles are measured against their own tier, not against each other. That keeps a cross-tier comparison readable: the percentage states which share of the vehicle’s own tier scores worse.

SU-85B Tier IV
Win rate Rank 22 of 57

Better than 63 % of the tier

Avg. WN8 Rank 25 of 55

Better than 56 % of the tier

Marder 38T Tier IV
Win rate Rank 25 of 57

Better than 57 % of the tier

Avg. WN8 Rank 24 of 55

Better than 57 % of the tier

Best players in this duel

The three best stored profiles per vehicle

From the stored profiles, minimum 50 battles on this vehicle. Updated daily.

SU-85B
Marder 38T

The advantage is highlighted in the colour of its side — for the MoE thresholds that is the lower value. Expected values are reference figures for the WN8 calculation, not vehicle statistics: they state what an average player achieves in this tank.

SU-85B data sheet Marder 38T data sheet